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February 26, 2007

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Brandon Reich

We believe there are two forms of convergence: convergence between physical security and data (IT) security systems, and convergence between physical security and the IT infrastructure. Both require collaboration between the physical security and IT departments, but don't necessarily mean the systems are truly integrated.

Take FIPS-201 from the federal government. This requires interaction between the two groups, but does not necessarily mean the physical and data security systems are actually "converged"; only that they use the same card, which may have multiple technologies embedded.

"Covergence" is a broad term, and must be broken down further before physical security and IT people understand and accept it.

Vik Ghai

I believe what Bob and CSO Executive Council are saying is that for True Convergence to work there has to be higher business goals or as OSE (www.opensecurityexchange.com) calls it “Business Drivers”. Unless the “executive and management perspectives” is aligned with an Organization’s Objectives – IT & Physical Security Convergence (or for that matter any other kind like Phone & Network Convergence for VoIP, etc) will remain a distant dream. Watch out for soon-to-be-released OSE Convergence Roadmap(sm) that drives this point home for helping Security Managers think about Convergence w.r.t an Organization’s Business Drivers and provides a detailed roadmap (w/ examples and case studies) on how to achieve it.

So Steve’s approach of “convergence goodness, thinking of it as collaboration, communication, alignment, understanding, and the other characteristics of truly coming together” – is sharp – though it should yield to a higher organizational goal that makes Board Member/ CxO’s heads turn.

Brandon Reich

I've been eagerly awaiting the Convergence Roadmap from OSE - we all have different ways of defining convergence, and applying it towards business drivers within an organization. However, the OSE will help legitimize these plans, and provide more formal definition and consistency to the term "convergence". When can we expect to see it?

Steve Hunt

I just saw a preview of the OSE Roadmap at TechSec. Frankly, it looked surprisingly similar to a paper I wrote at Forrester a couple years ago... Anyway, I think it's coming out soon.

Steve Hunt

Regarding the two types of convergence, I generally describe convergence as a hierarchy of three levels.

Highest level is the convergence of physical security with IT (computers software and networking, policies, processes)
Next level down is also technical:
The convergence of phyiscal security with IT security.
Third (and last, from my point of view)
The convergence of physical security people with IT people

Brandon Reich

Your third point - convergence of the people - is probably the biggest challenge. We're talking about two completely different cultures, skills, mindsets, processes and many others. This may be the most limiting factor of convergence.

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